Should Samsung retire the Note brand?
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I didn't realize "Note" was a brand (Score:2)
When you use a generic word as a proper noun, you're already in trouble with the branding. (Not as bad as the mutating acronym problem, however, as when GOP becomes Grab Our Pussies.)
Personal story time: I bought a Galaxy smartphone because I thought it was an international company. Therefore I thought I would be able to get English manuals. WRONG. The localized model is DIFFERENT and I couldn't even figure out which Galaxy model it was based on. It is also stuffed full of OS-level uninstallable software. A
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I agree - I live in Argentina, and I have never used a phone that could not be configured to use English. In fact, I always configure my phones to use English for everything except perhaps for the keyboard layout and autocorrect dictionary, because I hate seeing errors in Spanish translations, and menu options tend to be too long and not fit.
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Uh, Windows????
After suing Lindows, Microsoft settled out of court with Lindows by paying them $20 million to change their name to Linspire rather than risk having a judge rule that Windows is a generic term. and thus Lindows couldn't infringe on Microsoft's trademarks because "Windows" would be a generic term ineligible for trademark protection.
...or they could just fix the problem (Score:2)
Should Ford have stopped making cars because of the Pinto?
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They're likely still going to keep making a phablet line. And so they will still need to fix the problem. Making a symbolic name-change wouldn't make any difference.
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Perhaps not to you, but perhaps to the masses.
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Perhaps it's about time that a company announces that they're not going to pander to idiots.
Anyway, no one demanded that Apple retire the iPhone brand when they were having the same issue.
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Well, if a name change would make you feel better, I guess they could call their next phablet the Galaxy Nate.
So Dense (Score:2)
Well, if a name change would make you feel better
Kind of the point of the whole poll to begin with which you seemed determined not to grasp.
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Haha... the fix for pinto should have been a name change
Actually I think it was a $5 strip of metal to keep a bolt from puncturing the fuel tank in a rear-end collision.
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IIRC the "note" line are unusual among modern smartphones/tablets in that they are designed to work with both finger and stylus allowing you to use the stylus to jot down notes.
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Your analogy is wrong, Note is equivalent to Pinto, not to Ford. Galaxy is equivalent to Ford, so it is like retiring Pinto because Pintos explode.
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Re: Lol no (Score:2)
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They could call rename it the Galaxy Pro series. In the wild I've mainly come across Galaxy Notes in corporate settings. So it would make sense. I don't really care.
I'm not buying a phone from Samsung again until I know that they know how to make their phones not burst into flames.
The proper way to deal with this failure is to literally attempt to burn through all of the hundreds of thousands of units that they've recalled until they get a grip on what went wrong.
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Quick Charge. People want their phones to top up from dead in less than an hour. Forcing that much current into a lithium-ion battery isn't a good idea.
The solution? Make them take longer to charge. Puts less stress on a battery that's made out of volatile materials. Stop trying to appease impatient braindead idiots that want a design feature that's inherently incompatible with safety w.r.t. current manufacturing materials for batteries.
It's been known for several decades now that charging a lithium-ion cel
Re: Lol no (Score:2)
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yet people still want it, why? Because they choose to smoke weed and get pregnant instead of paying attention in high school chemistry class, and grow up to be fucking idiots.
So people shouldn't even want batteries that charge faster? Isn't that what drives science and technology?
No. (Score:2)
They just need to retire the Note 7.
The remainder of the Note lineup have been solid Phablets. I think the Note serves a niche in the market.
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Possibly, the only notable difference here is that the Pinto has been a sticker since the first gen.
While there may be some negative stigma associated with the Note branding, I'm not sure that this issue would completely tarnish the line's reputation.
On the plus side, they could always just rename it the Galaxy Phablet just to avoid any confusion XD.
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It's use is subjective like every other phone. (Score:1)
They should license the brand (Score:5, Funny)
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They should license the brand to an arms manufacturer
I want to create a joke around the fact that Samsung actually is ARMs manufacturer, but my funny bone is not functioning properly today.
Re: They should license the brand (Score:2)
Yep, then the weapon can play the Samsung boot tone before it goes BOOM.
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An antenna working slightly less well than you expect is worse to you than a phone literally catching on fire?
Market it to a different demographic (Score:1)
It should be marketed to the military as a high-tech update for the hand grenade. Current grenades are so low tech, this one is solid state and digital.
Or they can air drop the current inventory into enemy controlled territory. Or at least they could if they could be flown on an airplane.
New Sponsorship Deals (Score:2)
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Rotten Egg (Score:2)
The problem is people are much more stupid than we give them credit. I had people at work asking me if my phone is going to blow up soon or if im returning mine to buy a iPhone 7. I have a S7 Edge and im growing tired explaining to dumb arses that its not the same line of phones. But SOME people think Samsung only makes Galaxy phones and do not understand the different lines of products.
I think the damage is already done and this will affect and is already affecting their other lines. I personally do not be
No of course not. (Score:2)
I've whinged across the internet (as usual) about the Note7, mostly because of the idiot idiot idiot curved screen.
That being said it files 2 holes, some customers want.
1, some people genuinely like the stylus / pen - I don't at all personally, it's a waste of physical space in the phone for me but it allows me,...
2, a larger display phone, this is Samsungs only large offering. They don't do an "S8 Plus" or an "S8+" or any such thing. There's definitely a market for larger phone displays. Some people
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(I got the Note 5 super cheap due to the incoming Note 7 and I snagged a 64GB version to boot, it was a used phone in ridiculously good condition, paid less than half what the guy paid for it, only 7 months earlier)
Samsung Note, sure why not retire the brand (Score:1)
Re: Samsung Note, sure why not retire the brand (Score:2)
Android and Samsung (Score:2)
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Not the Note, just the phones (Score:2)
No.
The Note Pro is the best tablet from any manufacturer, on any platform, and is probably the best Android-based device Samsung has ever made.
Problem Solved (Score:2)
They should just license the brand to ISIL and the Taliban.
Allah hu ak-my nuts!!!
Just retarget it (Score:2)
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I wish my battery would last three years. Since I cycle it twice a day, I don't even make it a year. My Nexus 6 is on its second battery, but needs another replacement. Luckily it isn't too bad to pull it apart and replace it. It's not like I need a heat gun or anything. Just a T3 screwdriver for the 22 screws, and a spudger for the back.
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None of that makes sense (Score:2)
What, do you work for Samsung or something?
I guess we can assume you work for a company that makes external batteries since you are advocating that position...
1. Removable batteries have significant armor as they may spend time out of the device
Which means they have less battery and your phone will not last as long.
This armor would have protected the battery from localized temperature spikes.
From EXTERNAL temperature spikes, which you (and Samsung) have no idea if they are the source of the issue.
2. Removab
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> From EXTERNAL temperature spikes, which you (and Samsung) have no idea if they are the source of the issue.
A localized temperature spike can still be external to the battery, and can be internal to the phone. fedos is right in all points.
People may want more battery, but they also have to choose between this and the safety of their person, their relatives, their car, house, or even the airplane they're flyin
No they do not... (Score:2)
People may want more battery, but they also have to choose between this and the safety of their person, their relatives, their car, house, or even the airplane they're flying on.
Wrong, every other camera maker delivers safe phones that don't catch on fire. They can have better battery life and a safe phone; just buy an iPhone.
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I have a Note 5. The battery is 'sealed' but its quite easy to replace it.
SAMSUNG should just return to the NOTE4 FormFactor (Score:1)
Embrace it (Score:3)
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You're missing a great opportunity for a product-tie in with the mobile game Galaxy on Fire.
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Samsung should embrace the issue and call their next Galaxy the Fire Edition.
Sorry, Amazon has been there and done that.
The answer is no because... (Score:2)
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Your reality distortion field is showing. I suspect Samsung is probably the only cell phone manufacturer that makes its own batteries. There aren't very many decent battery manufacturers out there. But even if every cell phone manufacturer makes their own batteries, and even if Samsung gets special treatment, independent testing of the batteries in isolation would not have uncovered this problem.
Yes, the Samsung SDI batteries were the first ones that caught fire, but the full recall happened after ATL b
Who gives a shit? (Score:2)
Seriously.
Perhaps correct the issue? (Score:1)
They could just fix problems for the next-model when it comes time to release it. I've seen the Note 7. Even got a chance to play around with it. The phone itself was good, fast, responsive, and extremely lightweight. Hell, I was expecting a bigger phone than what it was. A friend of mine got the Note 7 along with a replacement because she broke it. Neither one exploded or got heated while charging. Note: We live in an area where it is routinely scorching outside.
Sure this this is a major hit for the brand
Does it matter what they call it? (Score:1)
What now? (Score:1)
Nobody cares what we think (Score:2)
Re:Android fanboy defense league, ASSEMBLE (Score:5, Insightful)
We know you're reading.
Because it is the android OS that is exploding, not the battery!
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If I had mod points today, I'd mod this UP.
Re: Android fanboy defense league, ASSEMBLE (Score:1)
I'm sure Google knows exactly how to build a secure phone OS. I'm equally sure such a thing would be horrible for spying on phone owners.
Re: Android fanboy defense league, ASSEMBLE (Score:1)
Don't believe the fiction that google doesn't know what it's doing. It knows *exactly* what it's doing.
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While that's a valid argument the same could be said for iOS. http://researchcenter.paloalto... [paloaltonetworks.com] http://www.forbes.com/sites/th... [forbes.com]
What phone are you using? Microsoft phone? Blackberry?
To get a secure phone you would probably need one that is not a smart phone. We should all know that any device with a proper OS is likely to have a security flaw that can be exploited. The problem is that users are uneducated on this problem. They store personal information, banking details, everything on a phone.
It's a user p
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The solution is to not make phones so thin. This is the problem with both the self-immolating Notes and Apple's touch disease.
Also, larger, replaceable batteries would mean it's easier to keep that phone out of a landfill when you buy the latest and greatest - rather than tossing it, give it away and someone else has a working phone for the price of a battery.
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The iPhone 6 Plus is also affected. Using a ball grid on a non-rigid substrate was a massive error. The devices have not lasted for a normal amount of time, and people are entitled to getting a fixed version, not having theirs "repaired" (they just heat it up to reflow the solder, but then it comes back because the underlying cause isn't fixed so it comes back). People did this with HP laptops with nVidia chips as well (could be temporarily fixed with a heat gun or sticking the whole laptop into the oven).
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You ought to know.
Why?
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Cause I'm still here, to remind you, of the mess you left when you went away.
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Looks like the name "galaxy note 9" hasn't been used for anything yet, though it would be rather confusing.